# The Sovereign Cloud - Cloudron Packaging Project

**Mission**: Package 56 production-critical applications for Cloudron within 48 hours

**Status**: Initial Planning Phase

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## Questions: 2025-10-17 14:30

### Authentication & Access
1. Do you currently have the Cloudron API token/credentials ready to place in `secret.txt`, or should I wait for you to provide them?

Yes I do. I have an api key from the super admin account. I also have a token from the cloudron builder service. 

This host has performed a succesful docker login to  cloudron-docker-registry.knownelement.com.

Also the builder service is configured to use cloudron-docker-registry.knownelement.com.

2. Should I verify connectivity to https://my.knownelement.com and https://cloudron-app-build.knownelement.com/ before proceeding?

Sure.

### Application Prioritization
3. PackageList.txt shows 56 applications in Tiers A-E. Should I start with apisix (first in Tier A - API Gateway), or do you want to specify a different starting application?

Please remove everything from that file except for the URLs.

Go ahead and pick your own order of packaging based on what you think is most important in terms of core technical and business infrastructure.

4. Would you prefer I start with a simpler application first to establish and validate the workflow before tackling critical infrastructure?

Yes. Lets do rathole and then inventree. I think those are good representative samples.

### Existing Work Assessment
5. I see several applications already cloned in Workspace/Docker/ (apisix, grist-core, hyperswitch, InvenTree, jenkins, killbill, openboxes, PayrollEngine, rundeck). Have you already attempted any packaging work that I should audit first?
6. Are there any existing CloudronManifest.json files or Dockerfiles I should review?

Start from scratch please. I blew all of that away. Be advised that Workspace/Docker is where git clones from upstream happen and should serve as input material. Please use CloudronPackages/Packages for actual cloudron package bits.

### Development Environment
7. For the helper container with Cloudron bits (Ubuntu 22.04 base): Do you want me to research and create the Dockerfile/build instructions, or do you have specific requirements/existing setup?

I leave it to you.

8. Should the helper container include specific Cloudron CLI tools? Which versions?

Whatever works? I don't have any specific needs

9. What should be mounted into the helper container? (I assume the entire CloudronPackages directory at minimum)

Yes , I think that should cover it.


### Workflow & Structure
10. You mentioned using collab/ (audit, questions, proposals, plans, prompts) and output/ directories. Should I create this structure, or only TheSoverignCloud.md and AGENTS.md as mentioned in lines 11 and 35?
11. If using collab/ structure: Should TheSoverignCloud.md live in collab/ or Workspace/?
12. What should go in AGENTS.md? (Documentation of AI agents used, their roles, prompts, etc.?)

For now, lets try just AGENTS.md and TheSoverignCloud.md and see how that works for the two test packages?

### Technical Research Needs
13. Should I perform web research on latest Cloudron packaging standards before creating the detailed plan?
Yes

14. Do you have any existing Cloudron packages you've created that I should study as reference implementations?
No

15. Are there specific Cloudron base images or addons I should be aware of?

Not that i'm aware of

### Approval & Communication Workflow
16. After you answer these questions inline, should I then create a detailed proposal document (in collab/proposals/) before creating the implementation plan?
17. For the questions -> proposals -> plans -> prompts -> implementation workflow: Should each stage have its own timestamped markdown file?
18. When I complete a stage (e.g., questions answered), should I notify you in chat that the next document is ready?

Lets table 16/17/18 for now, we can come back to it if we need it. This project may be contained enough, and this file (as it is and as it will be updated by me and you) may be sufficient for successful outcomes (working installs of new packages on Cloudron)

### Secret Management
19. Should I create the secret.txt file now with placeholder comments, or wait for you to create it?

Yes please

20. What secrets beyond Cloudron tokens will be needed? (Docker registry credentials, Git tokens, etc.?)

I don't think anything else will go in it. i already have ssh keys setup and tea is logged in to gitea already and docker login has been done to the cloudron registry.


### Testing & Validation
21. For smoke testing: What constitutes "proof of completion"? (Container starts, health check passes, specific functionality works, Cloudron install succeeds?)

Yes all of that. 

Pass 1: The whole stack (app/web/db/worker whatever) comes up on my workstation and I can access it at localhost:12000 (use that port for all the testing on my workstation ok?). YOu will tell me to test and wait for me to give you feedback.
Pass 2: Cloudron install succeeds


22. Should I document the smoke test procedure for each application in a standardized format?

Sure

### Repository Management
23. I see Packages/ directory is empty. Should packaged applications go there with structure like Packages/[AppName]/CloudronManifest.json?

Yes. Use AppName and put all the bits for each app in the AppName sub directory exactly

24. Should I create a standardized directory structure for each package?

Sure. Deviate as needed, but i feel they will have much overlap.


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## Status Tracker

### Applications to Package (56 Total)

#### Tier A: Critical Infrastructure (5 apps)
- [ ] apisix - API Gateway (Issue #179)
- [ ] jenkins - CI/CD Platform (Issue #234)
- [ ] rundeck - Job Scheduler/Automation (Issue #217)
- [ ] signoz - Observability Platform (Issue #221)
- [ ] netbox-docker - Network Documentation (Issue #201)

#### Tier B: Core Business Services (7 apps)
- [ ] hyperswitch - Payment Infrastructure (Issue #209)
- [ ] grist-core - Database/Spreadsheet (Issue #191)
- [ ] InvenTree - Inventory Management (Issue #173)
- [ ] consuldemocracy - Democracy Platform (Issue #189)
- [ ] reviewboard - Code Review (Issue #216)
- [ ] healthchecks - Monitoring (Issue #192)
- [ ] fleet - Device Management (Issue #195)

#### Tier C: Development & Automation Tools (6 apps)
- [ ] huginn - Web Automation (Issue #194)
- [ ] windmill - Workflow Automation (Issue #285)
- [ ] goalert - On-Call Management (Issue #204)
- [ ] datahub - Data Catalog (Issue #309)
- [ ] elabftw - Lab Management (Issue #188)
- [ ] docassemble - Document Assembly (Issue #277)

#### Tier D: Specialized Infrastructure (7 apps)
- [ ] killbill - Billing Platform (Issue #181)
- [ ] openboxes-docker - Supply Chain (Issue #205)
- [ ] rathole - Tunneling (Issue #225)
- [ ] fonoster - Telephony (Issue #227)
- [ ] chirpstack - LoRaWAN Server (Issue #184)
- [ ] easy-gate - Access Control (Issue #54)
- [ ] SniperPhish-Docker - Phishing Simulation (Issue #211)

#### Tier E: Remaining Applications (31 apps)
- [ ] slurm - HPC Job Scheduler (Issue #222)
- [ ] runme - Development Environment (Issue #322)
- [ ] seatunnel - Data Processing (Issue #301)
- [ ] docker-webhook - Webhook Handler (Issue #271)
- [ ] tak-server - TAK Server (Issue #180)
- [ ] midday - AI Assistant (Issue #178)
- [ ] craig - Chat Platform (Issue #185)
- [ ] jamovi - Statistical Analysis (Issue #196)
- [ ] KiBot - PCB Design (Issue #197)
- [ ] Resgrid Core - Emergency Management (Issue #214)
- [ ] satnogs - Satellite Ground Station (Issue #218)
- [ ] sdrangel-docker - SDR Software (Issue #219)
- [ ] warp - File Sharing (Issue #228)
- [ ] docker-drawio - Diagram Tool (Issue #272)
- [ ] openblocks - Low-Code Platform (Issue #274)
- [ ] wireviz-web - Network Documentation (Issue #276)
- [ ] autobom - BOM Management (Issue #278)
- [ ] PLMore - Project Management (Issue #279)
- [ ] manyfold - 3D Modeling (Issue #282)
- [ ] oss-llmops-stack - LLM Ops Stack (Issue #283)
- [ ] puter - Cloud Desktop (Issue #286)
- [ ] swupdate - Firmware Updates (Issue #326)
- [ ] mender-server - IoT Device Management (Issue #300)
- [ ] wireflow - Wireframing (Issue #50)
- [ ] nautilus_trader - Trading Platform (Issue #226)
- [ ] openfile - Tax Filing (Issue #316)
- [ ] database-gateway - Database Gateway (Issue #273)
- [ ] PayrollEngine - Payroll Engine (Issue #208)
- [ ] mirlo - Music Platform (TBD)

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## Lessons Learned

*This section will be populated as we progress through packaging applications*

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## Best Practices

*This section will be populated as we establish proven patterns*

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## Technical Notes

### Current Environment
- Workspace: `/home/localuser/TSYSPublic/ChiefOperationsOfficer/VpTechops/KNELProductionContainers/CloudronPackages`
- Cloudron Instance: https://my.knownelement.com
- Builder Service: https://cloudron-app-build.knownelement.com/
- Docker Registry: https://cloudron-docker-registry.knownelement.com/

### Upstream Sources Status
- Location: `Workspace/Docker/`
- Currently Cloned: apisix, grist-core, hyperswitch, InvenTree, jenkins, jenkins-docker, killbill, openboxes, openboxes-docker, PayrollEngine, rundeck
- Remaining to Clone: 45+ applications

### Naming Convention
All Docker artifacts for testing: `KNELCloudronDev-[package-name]-[artifact-type]`

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## Next Steps

### Completed Actions:
1. ✅ **Clean PackageList.txt** - Removed everything except URLs
2. ✅ **Create secret.txt** - Created with placeholder comments for Cloudron tokens
3. ✅ **Create helper container Dockerfile** - Created Dockerfile.helper with Ubuntu 22.04 base
4. 🔄 **Research Cloudron packaging standards** - In progress (limited web search results)

### Immediate Next Actions:
1. **Build helper container** and test it
2. **Start with rathole** as first test package
3. **Follow with InvenTree** as second test package

### Test Package Plan:

#### Package 1: rathole (Tunneling - Issue #225)
- **Repository**: https://github.com/rathole-org/rathole.git
- **Type**: Network tunneling tool (no auth)
- **Complexity**: Low (good for workflow validation)
- **Port**: 12000 (as specified)
- **Dependencies**: Minimal

#### Package 2: InvenTree (Inventory Management - Issue #173)
- **Repository**: https://github.com/inventree/InvenTree.git
- **Type**: Web application with database
- **Complexity**: Medium (good for testing database integration)
- **Port**: 12000 (as specified)
- **Dependencies**: PostgreSQL, Redis (likely)

### Cloudron Packaging Structure:
```
Packages/[AppName]/
├── CloudronManifest.json
├── Dockerfile
├── README.md
└── (other app-specific files)
```

### Testing Protocol:
1. **Pass 1**: Local testing on localhost:12000
   - Container starts successfully
   - Health check passes
   - Application accessible via browser
   - User provides feedback
2. **Pass 2**: Cloudron installation
   - Package uploads to Cloudron
   - Installation succeeds
   - Application accessible via Cloudron

## Implementation Plan: rathole Package

### Phase 1: Environment Setup
1. **Build helper container**:
   ```bash
   docker build -f Dockerfile.helper -t KNELCloudronDev-helper .
   ```
2. **Start helper container**:
   ```bash
   docker run -it --name KNELCloudronDev-helper-container \
     -v $(pwd):/workspace \
     -p 12000:12000 \
     KNELCloudronDev-helper
   ```

### Phase 2: rathole Package Development
1. **Clone rathole repository**:
   ```bash
   cd /workspace/Workspace/Docker
   git clone https://github.com/rathole-org/rathole.git
   ```
2. **Analyze rathole structure**:
   - Review existing Dockerfile (if any)
   - Identify dependencies and configuration
   - Determine port requirements
3. **Create Cloudron package structure**:
   ```
   Packages/rathole/
   ├── CloudronManifest.json
   ├── Dockerfile
   ├── README.md
   └── config/ (if needed)
   ```
4. **Create CloudronManifest.json**:
   - Define app metadata
   - Set port configuration (12000)
   - Configure health checks
5. **Create optimized Dockerfile**:
   - Based on rathole's requirements
   - Cloudron-compatible
   - Health check enabled

### Phase 3: Local Testing
1. **Build rathole package**:
   ```bash
   cd Packages/rathole
   docker build -t KNELCloudronDev-rathole .
   ```
2. **Test locally**:
   ```bash
   docker run -d --name KNELCloudronDev-rathole-test \
     -p 12000:12000 \
     KNELCloudronDev-rathole
   ```
3. **Verify functionality**:
   - Check container logs
   - Test port accessibility
   - Validate health endpoint
4. **User testing**: Wait for user feedback on localhost:12000

### Phase 4: Cloudron Integration
1. **Package for Cloudron**:
   - Create package archive
   - Validate CloudronManifest.json
2. **Upload to Cloudron**:
   - Use Cloudron CLI tools
   - Test installation process
3. **Verify Cloudron deployment**:
   - Confirm successful installation
   - Test application access via Cloudron

### Phase 5: Documentation & Cleanup
1. **Update TheSoverignCloud.md** with lessons learned
2. **Document rathole-specific patterns** for reuse
3. **Clean up test containers**:
   ```bash
   docker rm KNELCloudronDev-rathole-test
   docker rmi KNELCloudronDev-rathole
   ```

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*Last Updated: 2025-10-17 15:15*