License Concerns ================ The licenses attached to this software ([LICENSES](LICENSES)) are supposed to paint a simple concept: that this software was built for the open source community and they result in a license compatible with [LICENSE](LICENSE). Unfortunately, the real world steps in and troubles can arise. This note has been moved over from the [INSTALL](INSTALL) file: The Debian folks have conserver distributed with the package names of conserver-client and conserver-server. They are in the distribution "sid" and the "non-free" part (because the Ohio State license doesn't explicitly allow for modification to the code, even though it's totally implied and the intention of the author - I've even got proof in email! Oh well, can't blame the Debian folks for being cautious - they've been burned before, apparently). Here's a copy of the message I exchanged with Thomas A. Fine (original author at OSU) in 2001 that is referenced above: Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:47:18 -0400 (EDT) To: bryan@conserver.com From: "Thomas A. Fine" Subject: Re: A conserver license question... > Hi Tom, > > I had a little "problem" crop up that I was hoping you could help me > with. A guy out in net-land is trying to put a debian package together > of the code I've been releasing (based on your original work) and they > don't like part of the Ohio State license. I've attached the message > below. > > I'm not sure what can be done. One thought was a message from you that > I could put with the code stating that modifications are ok would > work. Or maybe just modifying the original license statement. Heck, I > don't even know if either are 100% legal. Maybe I need to talk to > someone at Ohio State. > > Well, if you have any ideas or suggestions, please let me know. Don't > know if I ever got a chance to thank you for the great stuff you > started! Thank you! ;-) Well, if I knew then what I know now, I would have copyrighted it under my own name, and not under OSU, and then I could change it. Since I don't work there anymore, strictly speaking, I can't change it. However, IMHO, this license allows modifications, without explicitly stating it. I can state without a doubt that this was my intention at the time (and hence, OSU's intention, since I put in the copyright while working for OSU). But also, since it allows use of the source, and since the statement required for inclusion says "includes software ..." it seems pretty clear that modification was both allowed and expected. You can't really use sources if you aren't changing them, and you certainly can't include this software in some other product without making modifications. As I recall, I more or less used the copyright that Berkeley was using back then for there BSD-related software, so I'm surprised there's a problem with it. I have to point out that version 1.2, available at http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~fine/Tech/cs1.2/ is distributed entirely without copyright notices. Interesting, no? So I guess I could add a copyright notice to that. But would I then be violating the OSU copyright that I wrote for 1.1? Since it is a different version, I could probably write a new copyright notice and license and be free and clear. There's also Purdue's versions of the software. It's mentioned on my console server web page at http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~fine/Tech/console-server.html So, pass this on to the people you're working with and let me know how you want to proceed. tom Hopefully corporations (or, I suppose, their lawyers) will be happy with the explanation above and become comfortable with the stated license.