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Here's a copy of the message I exchanged with Thomas A. Fine (original
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Here's a copy of the message I exchanged with Thomas A. Fine (original
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author at OSU) in 2001 that is referenced above:
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> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:47:18 -0400 (EDT)
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:47:18 -0400 (EDT)
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> To: bryan@conserver.com
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To: bryan@conserver.com
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> From: "Thomas A. Fine" <fine@head-cfa.harvard.edu>
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From: "Thomas A. Fine" <fine@head-cfa.harvard.edu>
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> Subject: Re: A conserver license question...
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Subject: Re: A conserver license question...
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>
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> > Hi Tom,
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> Hi Tom,
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> >
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>
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> > I had a little "problem" crop up that I was hoping you could help me
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> I had a little "problem" crop up that I was hoping you could help me
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> > with. A guy out in net-land is trying to put a debian package together
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> with. A guy out in net-land is trying to put a debian package together
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> > of the code I've been releasing (based on your original work) and they
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> of the code I've been releasing (based on your original work) and they
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> > don't like part of the Ohio State license. I've attached the message
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> don't like part of the Ohio State license. I've attached the message
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> > below.
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> below.
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> >
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>
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> > I'm not sure what can be done. One thought was a message from you that
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> I'm not sure what can be done. One thought was a message from you that
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> > I could put with the code stating that modifications are ok would
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> I could put with the code stating that modifications are ok would
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> > work. Or maybe just modifying the original license statement. Heck, I
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> work. Or maybe just modifying the original license statement. Heck, I
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> > don't even know if either are 100% legal. Maybe I need to talk to
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> don't even know if either are 100% legal. Maybe I need to talk to
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> > someone at Ohio State.
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> someone at Ohio State.
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> >
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>
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> > Well, if you have any ideas or suggestions, please let me know. Don't
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> Well, if you have any ideas or suggestions, please let me know. Don't
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> > know if I ever got a chance to thank you for the great stuff you
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> know if I ever got a chance to thank you for the great stuff you
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> > started! Thank you! ;-)
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> started! Thank you! ;-)
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>
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> Well, if I knew then what I know now, I would have copyrighted it
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Well, if I knew then what I know now, I would have copyrighted it
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> under my own name, and not under OSU, and then I could change it.
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under my own name, and not under OSU, and then I could change it.
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> Since I don't work there anymore, strictly speaking, I can't change
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Since I don't work there anymore, strictly speaking, I can't change
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> it.
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it.
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>
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> However, IMHO, this license allows modifications, without explicitly
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However, IMHO, this license allows modifications, without explicitly
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> stating it. I can state without a doubt that this was my intention
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stating it. I can state without a doubt that this was my intention
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> at the time (and hence, OSU's intention, since I put in the copyright
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at the time (and hence, OSU's intention, since I put in the copyright
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> while working for OSU).
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while working for OSU).
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>
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> But also, since it allows use of the source, and since the statement
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But also, since it allows use of the source, and since the statement
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> required for inclusion says "includes software ..." it seems pretty
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required for inclusion says "includes software ..." it seems pretty
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> clear that modification was both allowed and expected. You can't
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clear that modification was both allowed and expected. You can't
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> really use sources if you aren't changing them, and you certainly
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really use sources if you aren't changing them, and you certainly
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> can't include this software in some other product without making
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can't include this software in some other product without making
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> modifications.
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modifications.
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>
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> As I recall, I more or less used the copyright that Berkeley was using
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As I recall, I more or less used the copyright that Berkeley was using
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> back then for there BSD-related software, so I'm surprised there's a
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back then for there BSD-related software, so I'm surprised there's a
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> problem with it.
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problem with it.
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>
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> I have to point out that version 1.2, available at
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I have to point out that version 1.2, available at
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> http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~fine/Tech/cs1.2/
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http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~fine/Tech/cs1.2/
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> is distributed entirely without copyright notices. Interesting, no?
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is distributed entirely without copyright notices. Interesting, no?
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> So I guess I could add a copyright notice to that. But would I then
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So I guess I could add a copyright notice to that. But would I then
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> be violating the OSU copyright that I wrote for 1.1? Since it is
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be violating the OSU copyright that I wrote for 1.1? Since it is
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> a different version, I could probably write a new copyright notice
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a different version, I could probably write a new copyright notice
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> and license and be free and clear.
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and license and be free and clear.
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>
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> There's also Purdue's versions of the software. It's mentioned on my
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There's also Purdue's versions of the software. It's mentioned on my
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> console server web page at
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console server web page at
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> http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~fine/Tech/console-server.html
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http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~fine/Tech/console-server.html
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>
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> So, pass this on to the people you're working with and let me know how
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So, pass this on to the people you're working with and let me know how
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> you want to proceed.
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you want to proceed.
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> tom
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tom
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Hopefully corporations (or, I suppose, their lawyers) will be happy with the
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Hopefully corporations (or, I suppose, their lawyers) will be happy with the
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explanation above and become comfortable with the stated license.
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explanation above and become comfortable with the stated license.
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